Ben Gilroy Direct Democracy Ireland on Primetime

6 Responses to Ben Gilroy Direct Democracy Ireland on Primetime

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   ulsterman March 29, 2013 at 7:40 pm

   He let himself down by selling out the freeman movement as rubbish. Obviously there are those who would disagree with him there or should they not have a forum. Does everyone other than the likes of Ben all talk rubbish?. Was very disappointed in him. As far as I can see he is just another empty suit.

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   John Costello March 29, 2013 at 8:11 pm

   My question is how could he sell out his tns buddies so easily? Is it his secret quest for power?. But the bigger point everyone should get about Mr €400 to represent you in court Gilroy is his desire to bring an idea of direct democracy into the realms of being a political party. We know that politics is corrupt and broken, the system isnt broken, its working exactly the way it is designed to. Mr Gilroy has taken an idea and nullified its power by diluting its force by distracting it into the corruption and filth of politics. Im sure he is well aware that this move into politics is perfect haegalian dialect, control the other side and you can steer it where you want it to go. Ben and DDI have now taken our one possible true chance and lost our power by passing the power to those demons who control the political process. We humans have no chance whilst we desire leaders - the desire for to be lead apart from the laziness of it, only offers us the chance to be controlled. This is another control system tactic, and until we all realise that we are equal and have the same faults and weaknesses desires hopes and dreams then we will all be in trouble. Anyway the peoples convention might have something to say about this current version of direct democracy, maybe we should ask them.

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3. The Cowardly Lion March 29, 2013 at 8:59 pm

   He’s too slick and the way he rubbished the freeman movement wasn’t necessary, all
   he had say was ‘i’m not associated with it’ after all he was being quizzed by an RTE copy, paste and edit journalist, don’t trust him, smells like an opportunist!

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   Diane March 30, 2013 at 12:00 am

   I posted this on Tir na Saor earlier after a few other posts, I think I make my points clearly, Ben needs to wise up to people’s sensitivities, you can’t insult people and expect to get away with it-not any more!

   In regard to what I have said, I agree with the sentiment of both points. Sure I’m going to give Ben a chance, would I vote for him, I would, but it would be a first as I don’t vote any more. But the point I’m making is this; if you watch the full interview @ 3.50ish he describes ‘the freeman movement’ as nonsense (Paraphrased). This is not a good place to start, to describe any one’s beliefs or lifestyle (the things that make part if their individuality) as nonsense is a VERY negative thing to do. He would have been far better off saying he was not associated with the freeman movement or any other political grouping, adding that his view is everyone is entitled to their own opinions, avoiding association or dismissal. What Ben said @ 3.50 shook me as he has used many of the strategies and tactics we use, lawful resistance to unlawful action. To be fair to Ben (a man I respect and admire for his decency and knowledge) he might only have seen mainstream propaganda about the US fringe freeman movement who misbehave, shoot cops and generally act like assholes. As a Pagan I get this fully as we have a load of people who profess to be Pagan and use this ‘profess-ion’ to con and otherwise abuse gullible people. They are not Pagans, they are con merchants, the unbreakable rule in Paganism is ‘If it harms NONE, do what thou will’. Taken literally, don’t even put the wood on the fire until you have looked over it for living creatures living on it.
   Really, if we are going to make a good world we have to work a lot harder on the issues around consent, responsibility, consideration and love, if we don’t then DDI alone will not save us at all.

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5. Life after debt March 31, 2013 at 10:59 pm

   hollywood is the place for actors

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6. Life after debt March 31, 2013 at 11:10 pm

   Life after debts has represented people in courts and advised in their quest to stay in their homes and delt with third party debt collectors and we have never charged sums of money to help fellow people who are desperate and very vulnerable

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